All I can suggest is shoot more sighters. but you also need to watch your flags. for me when it is light and switchy L to R is when I get burned.
Lee
Tuning Temperature effect on tune
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Lee
Shoot through? if you do that you going to get burned. better to shoot so you learned how much hold you need for your rifle.
Lee
Welcome to my world Frank! I'm sure a lot of other people's world too. A lot of things have to come together to shoot a good target. I have a lot of respect for those who can shoot good targets fairly consistently
Ok, I understand, you mentioned practice earlier so that is where I got disconnect. FYI, I do the same when testing a new rifle.
Lee
Ok yea you get what I’m doing now.
Well was trying to practice but it turned into a, I guess tune, condition testing session. I just wasn’t satisfied with what I was seeing. Wasn’t consistent enough.
I think I got it for the conditions good.
So yea I’m leaning the Rifle and a lot of other stuff. Now will it change. I know where I’m at on the tuner and within 4-6 clicks from where it likes to shoot well at.
So no I don’t think it will be any drastic change. But I honestly don’t know yet.
I believe in set and forget when it comes to tuners. I also use tuners that weigh just enough so I can achieve that set and forget. my tuning principles are based off what an ir50/50 sporter can do with a fixed weight at the end of their barrels.
Lee
I have enjoyed reading this thread as an old cf 6ppc shooter before having to move exclusively to 22BR. For what it is worth my experience is find a tune and stick to it. When shooting a comp focus on the personal fundamentals: trigger pull, wind, follow through, mental acceptance of less than perfect shots etc. Worrying about tune just complicates everything else.
And this thread, folks, is my personal argument against so many of these tuning threads.
An experienced guy, a match winning guy…..he wants to screw with his tuner, that’s his business.
Not to pick on Frank, but he’s a new guy, learning to get established with a RFBR Gun. He‘s been taught that everything that is off a bit….must be the tune…..thus, he is going to appreciably steepen the learning curve by screwing with that tuner till he wears it out. Twist it left, twist it right…. Screw on a tube…screw off a tube.
With so many variables, especially condition reading….must be the tuner
Does this why? Read it on the internet.
For new guys…..start out wrong and you got a loooong road ahead.
An experienced guy, a match winning guy…..he wants to screw with his tuner, that’s his business.
Not to pick on Frank, but he’s a new guy, learning to get established with a RFBR Gun. He‘s been taught that everything that is off a bit….must be the tune…..thus, he is going to appreciably steepen the learning curve by screwing with that tuner till he wears it out. Twist it left, twist it right…. Screw on a tube…screw off a tube.
With so many variables, especially condition reading….must be the tuner
Does this why? Read it on the internet.
For new guys…..start out wrong and you got a loooong road ahead.
Let's say you're gun has been shooting well for the past few indoor matches and you've managed 2400 aggs, now you're at a match, it's warmer than your last match and on your first card about 1 shot each row goes out the top for a 2250. You go to your second best ammo, 2200 out the top. What now?
I disagree Tim. I have been shooting and tuning Rifles for groups for 30 years. While I am no expert or a top wining shooter I due know a little about what a group is telling me. You would be happy to know I went to my Match and never touched my tuner. We had great conditions. Conditions you dream about. Light 2-3 mph stuff. Light consistent 5 mph kind of stuff. Switchy enough to make it interesting.
Out of 9 shooters I was 8th. I might add 2-3 maybe even 4-5 top shooters. I shot
247 16X , 247 14X , 249 17X. 743 47X No 250’s which everyone else did. My Rifle was shooting great. It was only 45 degrees so yes I feel confident two clicks out on my tuner they would have been in one hole but I only had 3/4 of a hole of vertical so it wasn’t stopping me from from a 250. I think I shot well and learned a few suttle flag changes could costs me. I was completely happy with the Rifle and the only reason I didn’t shoot 250 is all on me. I know The Rifle can do it. I’m sure I can although it’s not easy. It’s only my second match with the Rifle and my first official IR match. I had the third highest X count although it means nothing. Means something to me.
250 24X was the high card. Some 250’s 22X. Ect.
Out of 9 shooters I was 8th. I might add 2-3 maybe even 4-5 top shooters. I shot
247 16X , 247 14X , 249 17X. 743 47X No 250’s which everyone else did. My Rifle was shooting great. It was only 45 degrees so yes I feel confident two clicks out on my tuner they would have been in one hole but I only had 3/4 of a hole of vertical so it wasn’t stopping me from from a 250. I think I shot well and learned a few suttle flag changes could costs me. I was completely happy with the Rifle and the only reason I didn’t shoot 250 is all on me. I know The Rifle can do it. I’m sure I can although it’s not easy. It’s only my second match with the Rifle and my first official IR match. I had the third highest X count although it means nothing. Means something to me.
250 24X was the high card. Some 250’s 22X. Ect.
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Head for the Bar
I think knowing your Rifle means a lot.
Higher temp mine would want a few clicks in.
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I think you guys should know I’m just a guy who loves accurate Rifles. Which led me to BR Rifles CF. I have had a pile of them over the years. One I should have set a world record with, it was that crazy accurate and I never did. So that should tell you something. I shot some matches. For me it’s always about the Rifles accuracy and not a match win. As long as my Rifle shot like I feel it should have I am quite content. I guess I’m getting to place where maybe I should win a match. It was never about that for me. It’s always been about the Rifles for me. I’ll shoot some matches and enjoy this RF stuff.
Is your choice to move in based solely on it being warmer or going out the top? I know some guys would move out in this scenario.Head for the Bar
I think knowing your Rifle means a lot.
Higher temp mine would want a few clicks in.
My Rifle at this point in time. We been running temps 38 degrees F to about 70
So my Rifle seems to come in higher temps out lower temps. Also vertical out horizontal in. But I could come out 4 clicks and not blow up. I never been in any further than I am right now. So I’m really learning this stuff. I may not be the person to ask. I am seeing patterns in it. At 80-90 degrees it may all be different. I honestly don’t know.
I get in a zone when I’m shooting and I hear other guns going off but I couldn’t tell which or where. I also been guilty of holding on a flag change because I knew where it was going. I been wrong a few times 
. So most memorable moment of the match. I’m in a zone. The flags stop and turn facing us the range goes quite silence. Light tailwind. My Rifle loves it. So I jump to a sighter and center punch it. Humm fluke, I move to another sighter punch it. I jump to the bulls and I got like three X’s before the flags changed. I was the only Guy shooting. I thought it was funny. 
This is the marked area the tailwind
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. So most memorable moment of the match. I’m in a zone. The flags stop and turn facing us the range goes quite silence. Light tailwind. My Rifle loves it. So I jump to a sighter and center punch it. Humm fluke, I move to another sighter punch it. I jump to the bulls and I got like three X’s before the flags changed. I was the only Guy shooting. I thought it was funny. This is the marked area the tailwind
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Shoot what you know Mr. Frank.I get in a zone when I’m shooting and I hear other guns going off but I couldn’t tell which or where. I also been guilty of holding on a flag change because I knew where it was going. I been wrong a few times
At least you have confirmation your best ammo is still better than your second best ammo. LOL!!!
It's not unusual for us to have a 15 to 20 degree change in temperature while shooting a 3 hour match. I've been shooting the same tune with about 40 different lots of ammo for over a year and one thing I've noticed blowing me out the top is mirage. It's taken me awhile and I'm getting better at shooting it.
By same tune do you mean the exact same number on the tuner or same general area/ within a few clicks?