Wasn't actually a serious question. I was just wondering what the last page of posts had to do with rimire accuracy.
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Tuning Temperature effect on tune
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I had a frustrating range/practice trip this morning. Crazy weird weather conditions. Welcome to PA 
57 degrees overcast, dark and dismal, raining in spots. Range is a swamp but no rain now 7am. Winds out of the south at 5-20 mph. Range S to N. I have no wind on the flags to light 2-3 mph swirling to flat out 20 mph stuff. With a good bit of it a right to left cross wind at 5 mph. High humidity hot air and bad mirage on target.
I shot a tube, I tried a few different tunes to crazy twisting on the tuner into uncharted territory. If you look at the target first two rows was 5&3. IR target. Yes but they weren’t going where I wanted them to go. I’m shooting it and it’s just off. Actually you could argue most all shots were 10’s other than a few the wind got em. No the wind should not have, should not have been off that far. Just doesn’t feel stable, no trust In them. So I end up back at my original tune no tube. Then judging the group I came in 4 clicks from there, not all at once and in the wind holding on the dot shot these 5 shots
Then the next and last row across the top is that tune, The flags dancing around 2-3 mph stuff swirling just held on the dots. Seems more stable and trustworthy.
The bottom row was one of the other tunes.
You can argue it’s no better than any other tune you tried, oh but it is.
Now the match will be a completely different temp and conditions will I need to adjust. I don’t know.
57 degrees overcast, dark and dismal, raining in spots. Range is a swamp but no rain now 7am. Winds out of the south at 5-20 mph. Range S to N. I have no wind on the flags to light 2-3 mph swirling to flat out 20 mph stuff. With a good bit of it a right to left cross wind at 5 mph. High humidity hot air and bad mirage on target.
I shot a tube, I tried a few different tunes to crazy twisting on the tuner into uncharted territory. If you look at the target first two rows was 5&3. IR target. Yes but they weren’t going where I wanted them to go. I’m shooting it and it’s just off. Actually you could argue most all shots were 10’s other than a few the wind got em. No the wind should not have, should not have been off that far. Just doesn’t feel stable, no trust In them. So I end up back at my original tune no tube. Then judging the group I came in 4 clicks from there, not all at once and in the wind holding on the dot shot these 5 shots
Then the next and last row across the top is that tune, The flags dancing around 2-3 mph stuff swirling just held on the dots. Seems more stable and trustworthy.
The bottom row was one of the other tunes.
You can argue it’s no better than any other tune you tried, oh but it is.
Now the match will be a completely different temp and conditions will I need to adjust. I don’t know.
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I have some of lot2 LT32 but I don’t know if it will help me
I never liked it. I have lot4 of 2015 can’t remember the year but it was about as good as T8208. Have some other 2015 that I think went on to become LT30. It’s a little HOT.
I have some of lot2 LT32 but I don’t know if it will help me
I never liked it. I have lot4 of 2015 can’t remember the year but it was about as good as T8208. Have some other 2015 that I think went on to become LT30. It’s a little HOT.
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RF or CF, both use smokeless powder. There are factors that make for somewhat different results but all smokeless powders change to some degree or another with temps. That's how it's related my friend. Not arguing but just saying that there is a correlation in this regard. It's less apparent in rf but it's still a chemical reaction. That's all. Mentioning cf IMO doesn't change the value of understanding the materials and how they are related...2nd cousins. Lol!
Yes sir. If there is horizontal built into the tune, wind is not likely to help that. At least not with my luck. Agreed.
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I didn't realize he had stopped 600 completely but I do understand him putting a lot of effort into the world team for now.
H4198 was the go to powder for well, mostly forever for the 30 BR guys but it has pretty much completely gone away and it's been like that for maybe a couple of years now, so people are looking at alternatives and LT30 is really close and is a good option in a lot of barrels. Not my first choice but a good one.
If you agree with this statement it will lead you into places you may not want to go.
Midas +. Best lot I have, I think.
If the temp drops I may switch to CX and I know out 4 clicks all will be as good as I can do. But I do believe In the M+ being a little more consistent. Been my experience. And just when you think you know, you don’t. So still too inexperienced in match conditions to know what I will have.
If the temp drops I may switch to CX and I know out 4 clicks all will be as good as I can do. But I do believe In the M+ being a little more consistent. Been my experience. And just when you think you know, you don’t. So still too inexperienced in match conditions to know what I will have.
How about this?....A good tune minimizes the effect of the wind
Not sure if that's actually true but I've been told it was. My thought is more like....a good tune makes a good shooting gun shoot just a little bit better regardless of conditions
R to L, on the group you shot where was your hold?I had a frustrating range/practice trip this morning. Crazy weird weather conditions. Welcome to PA
57 degrees overcast, dark and dismal, raining in spots. Range is a swamp but no rain now 7am. Winds out of the south at 5-20 mph. Range S to N. I have no wind on the flags to light 2-3 mph swirling to flat out 20 mph stuff. With a good bit of it a right to left cross wind at 5 mph. High humidity hot air and bad mirage on target.
I shot a tube, I tried a few different tunes to crazy twisting on the tuner into uncharted territory. If you look at the target first two rows was 5&3. IR target. Yes but they weren’t going where I wanted them to go. I’m shooting it and it’s just off. Actually you could argue most all shots were 10’s other than a few the wind got em. No the wind should not have, should not have been off that far. Just doesn’t feel stable, no trust In them. So I end up back at my original tune no tube. Then judging the group I came in 4 clicks from there, not all at once and in the wind holding on the dot shot these 5 shots
Then the next and last row across the top is that tune, The flags dancing around 2-3 mph stuff swirling just held on the dots. Seems more stable and trustworthy.
The bottom row was one of the other tunes.
You can argue it’s no better than any other tune you tried, oh but it is.
Now the match will be a completely different temp and conditions will I need to adjust. I don’t know.
Lee
A good tune? the correct tune will give you a flat shooting rifle. with this your hold will be closer to the center, less margin of error. but you still need to shoot when you suppose to!
Lee
That explains where the group ended up. you should have held at 3:30-4 'o'clock. maybe at the 7 or 6 ring. I shot an ARA match this past Sunday very cold and windy R to L most were trying to hold at the square border of the bull. at most I was at the outer 25 ring.
Lee
I’m still learning this RF stuff. I ain’t going to lie there is a lot of freaky stuff that goes on. It’s a deep hole. I guess the biggest problem I’m having is the Rifle shoots well.
But when moving from Bull to bull. Even in good conditions or even a wind hold you just hit and everything looks the same it’s just off a little. This seems to be a condition others struggle with also. So something going on there I haven’t figured out just yet. But hey I’m having fun.
But when moving from Bull to bull. Even in good conditions or even a wind hold you just hit and everything looks the same it’s just off a little. This seems to be a condition others struggle with also. So something going on there I haven’t figured out just yet. But hey I’m having fun.
No I didn’t want to hold. I wanted to see how far off they were and how consistent and I put 5 there which told me that was consistent enough I should be able to hold and be able to repeat. Then naturally that condition went away and I was dealing with light swirling 2-3 MPH stuff. So I ran a row just holding on the dots to see what I could shoot through. So kind of testing Practice