Will not extract a loaded round

It’s a term we used in some 60 years of competitive shooting, I just didn’t go through the complete procedure. Now that you brought it up. What’s with if there is a cease fire and you open the bolt and the round stays in the chamber and you remove the bolt does that satisfy the safety part? It can’t fire with no bolt in the rifle and you step away from the bench. I don’t see any rules on that….. jim
If I were the RSO or MD I'd need that round out of the chamber regardless if the bolt was in or out
 
So peck it out with a knife, or shoot it ? And show me the rules for this ……. Jim
Don't need a rule for this but how about common sense. I RSO for our local matches and I sure as heck would not want a live round in a chamber with people downrange even if the bolt is out. That's just plain stupid. You got a hot one, sound off, the RSO will let you put in in the berm.
 
In NRL22, for bolt guns , the chamber must be cleared before moving positions on a barricade (except semi- auto). You can’t just shoot it mid stage , Sending it mid stage loses you points! its ok to send-it after the buzzer
Also, i just finished a match this Sunday , the RSOs were clearly instructed to inspect the chamber before shooter leaves the stage.
Of course its not safe to leave a round in the chamber when the bolt is out , what if you take it home and forget there is a round in the chamber and put the bolt back ? Thats is a no no for sure
 
I guess you you never had a 2500 action that will not extract a loaded round. With the chambers that I engrave the bullet deep and or the weak extraction of the 2500 action, that are one the most accurate actions.
Any national rim fire organization should have rules to cover this and not left up to the clubs to rule on how they feel that day when and if it happens. In over 60 years of competing shooting I have never had a issue with this and now with a the 2500 rim fire action I do….. jim
 
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This is not just an issue with the 2500X action. It's the same situation with my 10X or any rifle that's setup where the bullet engages the rifling so deep.

Not sure why we're making such a big deal out of this. It's not a situation that happens often at a match. It rarely happens. When it does you simply make the MD aware and fire the round into a sighter or somewhere in the backer off the target. Why is this such a difficult concept to grasp?
 
I guess you you never had a 2500 action that will not extract a loaded round. With the chambers that I engrave the bullet deep and or the weak extraction of the 2500 action, that are one the most accurate actions.
Any national rim fire organization should have rules to cover this and not left up to the clubs to rule on how they feel that day when and if it happens. In over 60 years of competing shooting I have never had a issue with this and now with a the 2500 rim fire action I do….. jim
There are two very simple fixes.

1. Deepen the chamber such that is only engraves .010 to .020. It will most likely extract fine and solve your dilemma. Will it cause accuracy issues? Who knows for sure, but you will have your loaded round extraction. I really wish you would quit bashing the 2500X action for this issue. Almost EVERY BR action out there, using it the way we do, has issues extracting a loaded round. And in all the ARA and PSL matches I have shot for 10 years or more, I don't remember issues with dealing with it.

2. If you can't deal with it, sell it and buy something that does. Some gunsmiths strive to make sure that the guns they build will pull a loaded round. Some even do BR work. Maybe you should find one of them to build you a gun.
 
There are two very simple fixes.

1. Deepen the chamber such that is only engraves .010 to .020. It will most likely extract fine and solve your dilemma. Will it cause accuracy issues? Who knows for sure, but you will have your loaded round extraction. I really wish you would quit bashing the 2500X action for this issue. Almost EVERY BR action out there, using it the way we do, has issues extracting a loaded round. And in all the ARA and PSL matches I have shot for 10 years or more, I don't remember issues with dealing with it.

2. If you can't deal with it, sell it and buy something that does. Some gunsmiths strive to make sure that the guns they build will pull a loaded round. Some even do BR work. Maybe you should find one of them to build you a gun.

I don’t get where you state I’m bashing the action, but this is the first one that had this issue. John Langley built this gun, at 80 years old I don’t have the time to get an other one built. So I’ll get off this site then…… jim
 
Jim, John Langley built my Turbo and it won`t extract a live round either. It`s due to the bullet engraving the rifling and it`s normal in chambers on these benchrest rifles. It`s done for accuracy purposes from what I`ve heard. Mr. Langley has been building these rifles for years and he knows what he`s doing. There is nothing wrong with your 2500 X. They are an exceptional action with more in use today than anything else. Like a friend of mine used to tell me. Don`t worry about the mule going blind just load the wagon. ;) Les.
 
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I find with my 2500X, that after a clean of the chamber, I can immediately extract a live round.

After about 15 to 20 shots, I find I can't extract a live round any more..

Possibly due to the Carbon ring build up.
 
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not a really hard job to make a loaded round eject even when using .140 to .150 stickout, but cant be done with a coned breach, gotta have extractor cuts that are shaped correctly.
 
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