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    Sounds like you're plugging along pretty good. I'd guess the best thing you could possibly do is show up at a few sanctioned matches. Guys will show you stuff, you see their stuff, they will answer questions, your learning curve will shorten appreciably.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim simbari View Post
    Sounds like you're plugging along pretty good. I'd guess the best thing you could possibly do is show up at a few sanctioned matches. Guys will show you stuff, you see their stuff, they will answer questions, your learning curve will shorten appreciably.
    Yes I need to go to some matches and see how all of this works. I went to the range with the ARA targets. My first target was terrible with a 950 score, I adjusted the tuner and the next target was 1100, I adjust the tuner again and the third was 1340, I tuned it again and the forth was 1440 and I had to leave.

    If you have some advice on adjusting the tuner it would be greatly appreciated. It is a Harrell, if that is how you spell it. How many clicks should I turn it at a time? Im having a hard time finding the sweet spot. And do you have to re tune when changing ammo, I shot a box of ELEY black box but I couldn't tell much difference from the federal match as far as results. The red box shot a little better but I had only one box.
    This can be very challenging let alone shooting a match.


    But the gun must look impressive for there was a feller there with a serious looking 22 who kept trying to get me to match him for $100. 00 LOL
    Last edited by GaryMac; 06-03-2016 at 06:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GaryMac View Post
    Yes I need to go to some matches and see how all of this works. I went to the range with the ARA targets. My first target was terrible with a 950 score, I adjusted the tuner and the next target was 1100, I adjust the tuner again and the third was 1340, I tuned it again and the forth was 1440 and I had to leave.

    If you have some advice on adjusting the tuner it would be greatly appreciated. It is a Harrell, if that is how you spell it. How many clicks should I turn it at a time? Im having a hard time finding the sweet spot. And do you have to re tune when changing ammo, I shot a box of ELEY black box but I couldn't tell much difference from the federal match as far as results. The red box shot a little better but I had only one box.
    This can be very challenging let alone shooting a match.


    But the gun must look impressive for there was a feller there with a serious looking 22 who kept trying to get me to match him for $100. 00 LOL
    Don't get overly frustrated at this stage of the game, you gotta remember you are dealing with the limitations of a moderate priced factory gun with a tuner. A benchrest purpose built gun is an excercise in consistancy and a tuner is kind of a finishing touch. A factory rig has lots more variences, less consistancy, limited barrel quality, factory crown, all of which work against you. A tuner will only improve so much.
    That said get out and test it with broad adjustments first, say a full turn, then as you notice patterns, go 1/2 turn, 10-15 clicks and get it narrowed down. Remember, at this stage of the game, it's more about skills, learning wind and then somwhere down the road, you decide if you can/want to step up your game equipment wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tim simbari View Post
    Don't get overly frustrated at this stage of the game, you gotta remember you are dealing with the limitations of a moderate priced factory gun with a tuner. A benchrest purpose built gun is an excercise in consistancy and a tuner is kind of a finishing touch. A factory rig has lots more variences, less consistancy, limited barrel quality, factory crown, all of which work against until I was sure I wanted to perfueyou. A tuner will only improve so much.
    That said get out and test it with broad adjustments first, say a full turn, then as you notice patterns, go 1/2 turn, 10-15 clicks and get it narrowed down. Remember, at this stage of the game, it's more about skills, learning wind and then somwhere down the road, you decide if you can/want to step up your game equipment wise.
    Yes I understand the quality of the gun and perhaps it has reached its peak but I don't know, seems to get better with each outing. I didn't want to jump in and buy an expensive gun until I was sure I wanted to pursue BR shooting. But after a few outings I was hooked. Getting all of this past the wife is another matter. It is an expensive hobby.

    With every gunstock I make I learn a little more, and maybe someday I will be able to barter gunstocks for parts. I received a vey nice and beautiful walnut blank today beautifully figured. Some of those blanks can be very expensive. But wait until you see my next one, it will be engineered for performance as well as ascetic.

    My background is in oil refinery and chemical plants working in metallurgy, chemicals, heat and pressures and the effects. I engineer the planning and scheduling for turnarounds. Curiosity has me wondering if there are titanium barrels? I haven't run across that scenario. Titanium is the most stable in heat, chemical, and temperature changes and used in equipment where no other material will stand the very harsh conditions that can be issued with heat expansion and contractions and chemical and pressure abrasions, some of the equipment in chemical plants with polystyrenes work in the sixty thousand pound range.

    Anyway thanks for your help, I have a ton of questions and time you spend with me is valuable to me.

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    A funky stock i built for a pair of FWB2700 one LV/HV and other one a Sporter, any one who ever owned Feinwerkbau rifle knows they are hard to put into typical stock due to particulary low profile trigger setup.

    First i drew a 1:2 scale plan and went from there as build progressed. Only mayor change was that i ended up cutting the front to make stock more low profile. Good drawing helps as i can often measure things from it
    In any case i verticaly and horizontaly cross laminated 10mm balsa planks with strips of carbon fiber and after shaping wraped it all into carbon fiber . Particular thing to this stock is that rightup to last stages it was a two part afair a separate backbone and keel. that enabled me to keep things square and true with degree of ease that us rearly there with normal stock but it did make for some nerve racking 'final assembly'

    End weight of the stocks cca 550g and yet stock is stiff and not resonant like sometimes hapens with light stiff CF stocks.


    Ohh that trigger guard is another story on its own , troughout the build i was bothered by not having any viable idea for trigger guard that could hide that hideus tirgger ,till i came ip with tha bullet shaped thingy.


    Stages of build .Note the trigger design. In making clear coated CF finish you are just begging for more work and time in never ending chase for perfect finish. Its something i do from time to time but in reality its probably not worth it as i could have built 2 custom stocks in same timeframe i make one in CF clear finish or 4 molded stocks from paterns i have.

    Next stock this time for an BR air rifle ,will be something special i just sourced some specialy fancy CF and more importantly a special vibration dampening meterial for use in composite robot arms and machining centre beams real voodoo stuff .

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    Last edited by Mister T.; 02-27-2017 at 07:33 AM.

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